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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2008, 08:30:13 am »

I'm wondering too.
what kind of stitch did you use to sew on two layers of fabric?
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2008, 09:09:30 am »

Wao, You guys are good on this field!

Pastor Jon, congratulation. The team for the bugs getting bigger and better (Again, well done)
(You do such a great job in the mouth)

BTW: What kind of pattern you use for the body, that shape is great!

« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2008, 10:46:17 am »

Yes the lips are hand stitched.  I hand stitch most of the seams on my puppets.  I've found that at least for me its easier to hand stitch it in place than to try to pull the fabric on over the foam.  As to the stitch I use ... I've heard it called several different names but I call it the "ladder stitch".  Project Puppet has an excellent Stitch Tutorial that describes how to execute several stitches including the Ladder Stitch.

Miguel - With the Rhino Beetle, and all my other bug puppets, I designed the puppet myself and in many cases did not use a pattern.  I just worked with the shape until I was happy with it.  I'm glad you like it.

Hope that answered your questions.
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2008, 11:55:19 am »

hmmm, yes, I know this stitch, I was practising this one before I saw double gathering ("Henson stitch") that Jay used in his video tutorial. so an other question goes - how do you use the "ladder stitch" to sew on one piece of fabric on another... I tried to do that way too, but the only way I'm able to use that stitch is to sew up two edges of fabric (like sewing up to halves of head together), not the layers of fabric......
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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2008, 12:08:58 pm »

All the puppets I made are hand stitch (Long stitch ahead and short back forward) . Work good for me!

« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2008, 01:36:46 pm »

Sorry, I didn't understand what you were asking for before.  I'll try and explain the process.

When it came to putting in the mouth and lip fabric (its all one piece) I had already covered the rest of the head.  I glued the red mouth lining to the inside of the mouth and left plenty of excess so that I can trim the lips to fit the way I want them to. 

Next I trim the lips to the shape I want leaving maybe 1/8 of an inch or 3 mm seam allowance.

Now I pin the fabric into place so that the lips don't shift too much as I'm stitching.

At last we're ready to stitch.  With the Rhino Beetle, I actually started at the center of the upper lips this way the most focal part of the mouth was anchored from the beginning.  I knotted the thread into the red lip fabric with the thread coming out through the face of the fabric.  And then did a short stitch in and out on the face of the black face fabric with the stitch running parallel to the outside line of the lips.  Now we drop straight down and do a short in and out stitch on the red lip fabric once again running the stitch parallel to the the line of the lips.  Do this stitch several times back and forth before you pull it tight, this will help you keep your stitches even.  If done properly the thread will look like the rungs on a ladder before you pull the stitches light.  As you pull the thread light the outer edge of the lip fabric should turn under hiding the cut edge of the fabric and the stitch.

In this case I'm using the ladder stitch to accomplish a blind applique.

Hope that's not too confusing.  Its really hard to explain.

Truthfully.  I think the ladder stitch, the double gathering stitch and the Henson stitch are the same stitch.   When I saw Jay doing the hand stitching in his video it looked like the same stitch to me.
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« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2008, 03:20:27 pm »

I'll have to turn this over in my mind x__X
I'll try to do this that way then and I let let you know how I went through it.

hm, but I think this is not the same stitch. if I'm not mistaken ladder stitch somehow goes parallel and perpendicularly while double gathering goes parallel and diagonally. they're similar to each others and the difference between them is slight, but they're not the same. I suppose...
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2008, 09:00:41 pm »

Ok, I did a little research and if what I found is true the Henson stitch is also called the baseball stitch.  This is definitely a different stitch from the ladder stitch.  And neither stitch is the same as the double gathering stitch.   Both the Ladder and the baseball stitches are discribed in the stitch tutorial link I posted earlier. 

I believe that in the stitching of the Rhino's mouth the ladder stitch was the right stitch for the job because it allowed the fabric to be more or less appliqued while at the same time turnng the fabric edge and hiding the stitch.
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2008, 03:24:54 am »

hm, but Jay didn't use the baseball stitch either. oh, the name doesn't really matter right now. the most fundamental thing is to sew the fabrics together and be able to hide the seams [as you said that you used the ladder stitch to hide the seams while sewing the lips on - I'll have to try to work your technique out, I hope I'm able to understand it even with no pictures at all Smiley]

« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2008, 09:46:43 am »

Sorry about the lask of pictures.  I didn't anticipate needing to illustrate my process of attaching the lips and I'm not currently working on a puppet so I can't even demonstrate on a different body part.

But never fear.  If I can figure it out I sure you can too.

Can;tw ait to see what you're working on.
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