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BrutalSlakt
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« on: April 25, 2010, 03:42:00 pm »

Hi everyone!

I'm looking for a video and I don't remember where I found it. I forgot to bookmark it of course!

It's two puppeteers walking around outside, I think it's maybe at a fair. The puppeteers are hidden so you don't see them and in the front they each have a puppet that talks to the people at the fair. I think the puppets are supposed to be husband and wife and I think they had a backpack which the puppeteer hid in.

I don't remember if I found the video here (I've looked through every thread I thought could have it linked but haven't found it) or if I found it somewhere on youtube, but I'm not even sure it was on youtube. ;/

Does anyone recognize the video?
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 06:18:28 am »

It does not ring a bell with me. What type of puppet where they?
Billy D. Fuller
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 06:45:09 am »

Is this it "Hodman Dodmanott and Sally Forth"
http://www.hodmanandsally.com/page2.htm


https://youtu.be/cjj9ZPyvr00

Billy D.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2010, 07:44:09 am by Billy D. Fuller »
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 12:37:02 pm »

Those are very cool!  I had not seen them before.  How did you figure it out Billy?  Did someone post before about these?
Billy D. Fuller
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 02:08:24 pm »

Those are very cool!  I had not seen them before.  How did you figure it out Billy?  Did someone post before about these?

I just went to you tube and used  search words like back pack puppets until I found this one.

Billy D.
BrutalSlakt
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 04:16:47 pm »

That's the video! Thank you very much Billy! I bookmarked it the first thing I did this time! Smiley
Chris Arveson
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 05:36:38 pm »

That was fun!
cruppetman
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 07:26:58 am »

WOW, what a great video. This has me really pumped up. I've been looking for something to do as a walk around and this really fits the bill.

Anyone have any thoughts on how the whole thing is put together? Seems like they probably use a backpack frame for overall support, but I may be wrong.

Also, picking everyone's brain, any ideas of what they could be, here in the states? Some of my first thoughts were...boy scouts walking cross country and stopping at every street fair, etc. along the way; or backpacking campers who are lost; or a couple of old prospectors searching the country for anything of value.

Any thoughts?
Cruppetman
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 11:49:39 am »

I think all of your ideas for characters would work well depending on what venue you where at.  It might make them more "salable" if you could somehow change their character. For example if you where at a craft fair or flea market they could be prospectors. A boy scout could work for "helping" folks at an event.  In other words you could learn where everything is and direct folks who are lost.  Kind of like a traveling info desk. Smiley
Hodman
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 05:32:59 am »

Hello

I am the director of The Flying Buttresses, the company that created Hodman and Sally.  Im very glad that you enjoyed video of our characters.  You can find out more about us by visiting www.hodmanandsally.com

Crumpetman we have spent ten years and thousands of pounds developing and refining this illusion.  Please respect that traveling the world (including the States) performing this act is how we feed our families.  We take copyright and intellectual property extremely seriously.  We are currently taking legal action against another company who decided to do a very similar show.  I urge you not to replicate our concept.

The only way illusions like this can work is if they retain their mystery.  If they become common place sights they become redundant.  Look at the ride on Ostrich, or the Gorilla carrying a man in a cage effects.  Those were great ideas when they first came out but are relegated, through countless poor imitations, to cheap tricks available to buy, off the shelf, from joke shops.  Should we as artists not strive for originality rather than trying to copy what has already been done because it seems like a way to make a fast buck?
Thanks very much.  Im sorry my first post on this excellent site had to be negative in tone.
Rupert
StiqPuppet Productions
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 09:17:53 pm »

I am a little confused by your statement are you saying that if we copy the exact characters that you have then I could see the copyright issues......however I have seen this style of puppet many times before in puppetry books of many decades ago?  This concept is not new.....however your copyrighted characters and personalities and show are yours to own.  However you might have tweaked it to add you own twist to the illusion.  I wish you luck with your performance, they are great characters and nicely developed. Wink

I just want clarification as I said above because there are books with this concept I am sure older than most people.....I have also seen these type of illusions at many other events around the world that are not these characters. 

All the best.....

Daryl H
cruppetman
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 09:57:25 pm »

Rupert,
I started to write a nasty rebuttal to your post, which wrongly assumed I would be making copies of your Hodman and Sally, but thought better of it.

As Daryl said, the style of your walk around puppetry has been with us for many years. I was looking at that style and NOT the characters. The strong point of your show is the writing and delivering of that script through these interesting characters. Even without the puppets, which are not strong in the area of lip sync, anything used to deliver the dialog would still make a great show.

But, since you brought up the question of copying, doesn't it seem that these characters bear a strong resemblance to "Patsy" from 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'? Hmmmm?

Cruppetman
jovack
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 02:28:48 am »

his been doing these type of puppets for years

http://www.squashboxtheatre.co.uk/squash_box_gallery.html

john
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