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Out of the Box Puppets
« on: August 09, 2010, 12:06:06 pm »

I was wondering from those of you who have used the patterns from Project Puppet, could you tell me the height of the puppets from top of head (no hair or hat) to the bottom of body?

I'm familiar with the Glorified Sock Puppet, the Rotondo, Punto and Ovale, but not the rest of the patterns.  I have a customer who is wanting to purchase a pattern, but is on a limited budget, so she doesn't want to purchase without more information.

So....sizes on
Pin Head
Roly
Melon Head
Mostro
Borsa

Thanks!!!

Julie
Out of the Box Puppets
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 07:28:21 am »

Hey...just bumping this up again, so it doesn't get lost.  Anyone use these patterns and can tell me the sizes?

Julie
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 07:37:59 am »

I think the size would be relative Julie.  I know some folks actually size the pattens up and if you did that then the puppet would be bigger.  I've only used the Roly once on a project and then I only used the head pattern and not the body.  If I had to guess the height would have been around 24" if I would have used the body.
Angel in Tx
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 08:23:37 am »

Julie, I have used the melonhead but I don't have it here to measure. 
I have a picture of him, the yellow guy in the middle.  For reference the dog is from the glorified sock pattern, so I think they are about the same size.  They are on different height stands so it's hard to tell.
puppet trio
ProjectPuppet
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 09:45:25 am »

I think I can answer this one! Smiley

The Simple Series - 12-15 inches from the base of the body to the top of the head (depending on the headshape). The Pinhead Puppet stands the tallest; The Glorified Sock Puppet is the shortest. When it comes to the Simple Series Patterns...think "Prairie Dawn" or "Roosevelt Franklin" in terms of size.

The Forma Series - 15-18 inches from the base of the body to the top of the head. Again, the Punto Puppet would be on the tall end of that range. The Forma puppets are more "normal" in size, more in line with your "average" puppet made for screen or live performance in terms of size.

The Monster Series - The Mostro Puppet stands 25 inches from head to foot, and about 18 inches without the optional legs. The Borsa is 25 inches from the top of the head to the base of the body. One great thing about the Monster Series, really all three pattern series, is that the puppet parts are designed to be modular. For example, you can use the Borsa head on the Mostro body and vice versa without having to alter either pattern. So from two patterns you actually have four different shape configurations.

One more thing that I always mention when folks ask about the size of the Project Puppet patterns is that in puppet design, small is good. The size of an average human hand and arm doesn't vary that much, and you want the puppet to fit that hand and arm. The better the fit, the more control the puppeteer has, and in turn the better the performance (potentially). Bigger (although it may be necessary for some characters and will bring its own design challenges) is not better.

Hope that answers it!
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 01:56:53 pm »

Thank you Pasha for coming to our rescue!  I knew I was going to be way off!  You should see the fish I caught the other day it was this |__| no |______| no |______________________________| big!
Out of the Box Puppets
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 03:02:44 pm »

Thanks so much Pasha!  That information will be very helpful to my customer.  I sent her your way, but told her I do a little research.  I know I could count on P&S members to help us out.  Thanks.

Julie
Sunbeatle Puppets
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 04:02:41 pm »

this could be helpful for me, i just bought the roly pattern, and was thinking about blowing it up about 1.25%
i mean, 12 inches seems waaay small to me
Out of the Box Puppets
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 04:16:37 pm »

BTW Angel....your puppets are adorable.  Thanks

Julie
Angel in Tx
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2010, 04:20:39 pm »

Aw, thank you!
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 04:58:26 pm »

this could be helpful for me, i just bought the roly pattern, and was thinking about blowing it up about 1.25%
i mean, 12 inches seems waaay small to me

You did read this part right?

Quote from: ProjectPuppet
One more thing that I always mention when folks ask about the size of the Project Puppet patterns is that in puppet design, small is good. The size of an average human hand and arm doesn't vary that much, and you want the puppet to fit that hand and arm. The better the fit, the more control the puppeteer has, and in turn the better the performance (potentially). Bigger (although it may be necessary for some characters and will bring its own design challenges) is not better.

Measure from your wrist to your elbow.  How many inches is that? If it is more then 12" I'll be surprised.  I am talking about from the inside bend of your elbow to the inside bend of your wrist.  I've had to work with puppets before that are long in the body and it is very tiresome.   spin
April Dawne
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 08:34:59 pm »

I partially agree with bigger is not always better, although I do find that the Simple Series patterns for heads seem a little too snug on my hand, so I usually bump them up just a smidge. The bodies I leave alone, but the arms and legs get lengthened so my puppets have better "reach".
Andrew
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 09:32:46 pm »

This isn't completely relevant to the original post, but just by coincidence at work this week we were reducing the sizes of some of the PP "Forma Series" heads because we found them too big. We needed to make a bunch of Vikings with large wigs and beards for something and figured that the Project Puppet patterns were ideal for making a bunch of head shapes to build on top of quickly.

I have a preference for smaller puppets, they tend to be lighter, more flexible, and cost less to build. I don't use the "Simple Series" patterns, but have seen them and they're an ideal size for a soft, flexible puppet.
Sunbeatle Puppets
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2010, 06:55:27 am »

well i bought the Roly pattern and looking at the mouth pattern, i just can't even see my hand fitting :/. Oh well i will try it out unaltered and see if it works out alrite Smiley
MsPuppet
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 02:39:53 pm »

I agree - hands are different sizes. When men buy my puppets (or I make them for the male puppeteers on our team), I have to make them larger. The guys have trouble getting their hands in and out of the smaller puppets.
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