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What type of controller is this ?  (Read 10475 times)
andycomic
« on: September 06, 2011, 11:14:37 am »

What type of controller is this performer using:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6ut_egoEc , is it a german style one with more added to it?

Thanks,
Andy
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 12:49:15 pm »

Yes it looks like a vertical or actually fish controller and German or European marionettes often use this style of controller. If you can find the book "The Marionettes of Barcelona"  it has diagrams of vertical controllers.  I don't think the book is in print anymore but the ISBN is 0951360027. Maybe you can find it in the library.

Another resource would be Marionette Construction by Robert LeRoy Smith. There are only two places that I know of that you can purchase this. One place you can get this The Puppetry Arts Institute in Independence MO. They don't have an on-line store but if you contact them I am sure you could make arrangements to buy it from them and have it sent to you. http://www.hazelle.org/ They have it because Robert lived in Independence and was one of the co-founders of PAI. 

The other place that may have it all though I don't know that they have it in stock is PofA Store. http://store.puppeteers.org/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25&products_id=59 

Both of these are excellent books and I highly recommend them. Both have quite a few diagrams in them.  Robert's book is actually much more detailed I think and has more diagrams and patterns then The Marionettes of Barcelona.
andycomic
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 09:07:49 am »

Thanks for the resouce. I have emailed them and see what they come up with.

Thanks again for your help Shawn,

Andy
andycomic
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 06:54:39 am »

Hi Shawn,
I found the Barcelona book and its good and I also found a great book called "The Complete Book of puppet theater". It has a good 30 pages on construction and stringing. Its a pity its so hard to get these books.

Thanks again,
Andy
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 09:06:54 am »

May I ask where you found the books?  Wast it at the library or did you find some place to buy them?  I've seen "The Marionettes of Barcelona"  before at amazon but normally they have it priced at hundreds of dollars and I am not sure it is worth that. It is common for book sellers to do that and I really don't feel any of them are worth paying that for. Smiley I don't have "The Complete Book of puppet theater" but have seen it in the past in another puppeteers library and I aggree it is a good one.   
andycomic
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 09:30:53 am »

The main library here in Hong Kong had them. Tiny problem of not being able to borrow them as they are kept in a special section. Maybe because they are out of print?? Not sure. Anyway, I had to took a digital copy of the chapters I liked. The price for these for second hand on Amazon is ridiculous.

Andy
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 09:35:16 am »

Good I am glad it was the library where you found them. Smiley What are  you doing in Hong Kong or is that where you where born.  I guess I assumed by your post and name that you where English or American. Smiley
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 09:37:27 am »

P.S. Just was reading on your site that you won the "Melbourne Performers Fair" award.  Perhaps you are from Australia?
andycomic
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 10:23:09 am »

Yeh born in Australia, moved to HK 7 years ago for work,

Andy
andycomic
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2011, 05:21:13 am »

I was watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG337jJ8kZ4 and noticed that this is even a more elaborate controller. Am I correct in saying that most top marionette operators just make there own one? This seems to fit into a standard vertical controller but then has separate controllers for each hands/fingers and has a little swivel trigger for the left hand as well. His timing of the music is so excellent I though the puppet was actually playing.

I am pouring through material trying to figure out how to control these guys. I like the individual finger movements but having 10 strings in front of the face can be an eyesore as well. Here is another vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCzK9EwUuo

Andy
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2011, 06:38:56 am »

Yeh born in Australia, moved to HK 7 years ago for work,

Andy

Nice to see another Melbournite around these parts Smiley  Welcome to P&S!

More on topic... it would be nice if there was info on the net about Ronnie Burkett's controls. I know they're based on the German control, but I believe he's made a lot of modifications over time. I know there's a couple of Youtube videos of him discussing his work, but for the most part if I recall correctly, they've been about performing not building.

What about Luman Coad's book? I've heard it mentioned a couple of times over the years.
andycomic
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 08:20:48 am »

Yes another Melbournite. I will probably head home in Jan. Maybe we can meet up. With Lumans book, I would be interested to hear if its better than the Barcelona book or 'The Complete Book of puppet theater'.What are your thoughts Shawn ? Seems you have these.

Andy
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 09:07:42 am »

Yes another Melbournite. I will probably head home in Jan. Maybe we can meet up.

Andy

Sure! Always love to meet another person involved in puppetry. Especially as I rarely do these days. Smiley  PM me, or email, when you're making plans/have arrived.
andycomic
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2011, 09:19:08 am »

Sounds good !
One more quick question,
For an off the rack pro controllers from what I have found these are two good companies:
http://www.tonysinnett.co.uk/marionette_puppets/spares_controllers_kits/controller_2.html
http://www.figurama.de/anatomisches%20F%FChrungskreuz.htm

Any others companies you know of?

Thanks,
Andy
johian
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2011, 01:45:40 pm »

Hi,

the first one, see pic, is used by our compagnie.We call it the Czech control.
The German one I made for my witch, she is a head and shoulder marionet. This control is very good for this kind of puppets.
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Johan
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