Puppets and Stuff
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down
What type of controller is this ?  (Read 10460 times)
Russell2005
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2011, 02:38:06 pm »

How's he controlling the music? That's what I'd like to know. It seems he's able to stop it and start it to interact with the audience. And play certain clips when he wants to. That's interesting.
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2011, 04:58:54 pm »

I am not sure I would ever use "off the rack" controllers. I think the build and balance of the control is just as important as the puppet itself. Not every puppets shoulders are going to be the same width and I want my controller to match that width above as just one example.

I think both books are good resources and have different things in them that make them unique and valuable.  Like I said the one I don't actually own and it has been some time since I had a read through it.

DoLores Hadley whom I learned from had a piano player who just had wrist and back of hand strings.  His fingers had small weights in the end and where made out of fabric so that the joints moved. This worked pretty well.

You can get foot pedals for music systems that you can step on to turn your music on and off.  I think maybe they even have them now that you can step on a separate button to advance to the next track is you are using something like an mp3 or cd player. I assume the puppeteer in the one video had something like that.
andycomic
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2011, 09:25:23 pm »

Great, thanks for your help guys. Another piece of my big puzzle I am trying to put together. I also found this very helpful video of the original act I asked about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_621gqh0x8g , you can clearly see (1.11min) how he uses his funny looking dangling dowels at the front. He needs a lot of movement to operate the toungue and eyes so he put in a few levers at the front. You can also see his music controller attached to the controller in the other hand.

For the music, yeh i love that monkey act. I think he just really knows his music well and has some clever recordings to seem like he is warming up. It is possible for him to hit to notes though using a pre-programmed squence when any key is hit. This is done here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNjTceSGDeU . Most street acts seems to have a footpedal on the ground to control the music.  For a simple remote solution,  check out the Ijet which plugs into an Ipod. I've spent an aweful lot of time with music controllers. There is a cool new product from sparkfun called the MP3 trigger that can really do some interesting stuff for performers.

Thanks again everyone,
Andy



Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 06:26:32 am »

I love the "Bounce Piano"!  That was a hoot!  

I thought it was interesting that in the first piano the puppeteer had the controller for the music in his hand. That is one cool puppet. I can't quite figure out how he did the yes and tongue though.
andycomic
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 06:50:34 am »

I havent seen the mechanism for the tongue or eyes but I am 99% of how its done. A tape measure is mounted at 90 degress , pulled out to the required minimum length and then a string and stopper are placed right at that point. The controller then pulls up this string vertically and the tape measure extends up and then feeds out at 90 degrees through the head. Not sure who came up with this idea but its really really nice. You can clearly see its a tape measure from some of his other videos. He's really taken this idea and run with it.

The bounce piano guy vid is very cool. There is quite a bitter back story to this act. This guy invented the act but another guy ripped it off and became more famous for it (

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoULhtF_jps). He became quite bitter about it for good reason (didnt help that other guy was a much better juggler)

Andy
andycomic
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 10:41:52 am »

After quite a search, I found that this artist name is Michal Cvoliga from Slovakia. Youtube his name and you'll get lotsa results.

Andy
andycomic
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2011, 08:29:49 am »

Came across this today. I've read all the book but none mentioned anything like this type of controller:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Fn1zKP9Sc
Russell2005
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 06:35:41 am »

Wow!  You know I think people oftentimes come up with ingenious configurations all on their own. Like you, I'm betting she didn't find that in a book. That waistband holder is a really great idea!  I saw a guy that controls multiple marionettes simultaneously by hanging them on a clothesline type thing. That's a different take on that. It seems that waistband thing is holding the puppet's head, shoulders and back and it seems to have head movement controls on it. The hands and arm controls look like a T which I've seen before. But, she's got those hooks on them which she's using to guide and grab the strings and manipulate them.  Really cool! Thanks for sharing.
Robert T.
No Avatar
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2015, 07:31:00 am »

Reference: Andycomic post, What Kind Of Controller is this?- he posted 2 links, however- when you click on them- you receive a message "server not found".  Could be that the post is 4 years old.  If there are updated links- would appreciate the new links.  Thanks.
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2015, 04:35:11 pm »

For his first link to Tony Sinnett try this: http://www.tonysinnett.com/ not sure if the actual page he linked to was there but I think you'll enjoy the site even if it is not.  I think the other may be lost for ever but you might be able to find it at the Wayback Machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20150801165853/http://figurama.de/  Here is their current site. http://www.figurama.de/
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2015, 04:37:34 pm »

Hey I think I found the Tony Sinnett page that has controllers now. http://companyofmarionettes.com/marionette-spare-parts/
SHould
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2017, 04:31:38 pm »

I love going through old posts, I can learn a lot. Too bad most of the links provided do not work anymore.
I am myself going into this marionette adventure without much knowledge and this forum has been my favorite place to be for the last decade. I learn a lot and I know I can grow as an artist here and not be looked at weird. Thanks for sharing all!
SHould
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2017, 05:10:12 pm »

Hey I think I found the Tony Sinnett page that has controllers now. http://companyofmarionettes.com/marionette-spare-parts/


What is the name of the type of controller that is offered on the website? Here is a pic of that controller. It would be nice to know where the strings go, if you can tell me that would be awesome, thanks.

Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2017, 07:44:52 am »

Hmm... may be a more technical term for it but I've always just called it a vertical control.  The very top screw eye is a run through for the hands. The pivot bar below that is for walking attached to knees. The head bar is dowel at the bottom on the same plane as the pivot bar above. The dowel sticking out the back is for the butt string. Try the phrase "Vertical control for marionette"  on Google. It should give you some pretty good results.  If you are a visual person like me check out this pintrest page: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/313211349057032025/

Here is a diagram one of our members uploaded of a variation on this.


Here is a diagram of a simple airplane control I did a while back.
SHould
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2017, 09:44:22 am »

Awesome, thanks Shawn, you have answered my question brilliantly.
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Copyright © 2000-2017 Puppets And Stuff, All Rights Reserved

Privacy Policy - Terms of Service

Page created in 0.241 seconds with 25 queries.

Puppets and Stuff