Hi everyone I look forward to any advice you can give. My first project is a puppet caveman. I would love some ideas on how to slant the forehead and make his lower jaw alittle fuller. I am using a projectpuppet pattern, the Rotundo. Any idea would be appreciated.

Welcome to Puppets and Stuff! do you have any drawings of what you want your caveman to look like. The others will be long and offer some advice. Meanwhile make yourself at home.

Hi, Thanks for the welcome. I got my idea from a video on youtube. It's called funny caveman 3D-In the rough. I love the caveman in this video. So basically this is the best face like I have in mind that I could find. I hope this helps.
I am going to give it blinking eyes as well.

Funny 3D Caveman Animation Movie - In The Rough 
Here is the link to the caveman.

Hello and welcome! My first thought is to make the head as normal, then cut out some block foam and build up the eyebrow area and lower jaw. The eyes should be quite recessed compared to current homo sapiens.

Welcome aboard!

Na is correct, but you can used 1" foam if you don't have block foam.  Cut a piece a little longer than the width of the face and about w" wide.  Bevel the edge that will be slanting to the back of his head.  Also, cut a V shape in the middle where the bridge of the nose will meet.

Julie

Kind of like the eyebrows on this tree face only you will want one piece. 

Julie

I think to make the lowerjaw stick out further on the Rotundo pattern you should be able to add an inch or so to the front bottom seam of the pattern. I think it is seam #3 but not sure. Can't find my pattern only the instructions at the moment. I am talking about the V seam you see in illustration for step 6. You would only need to increase this seam at the front of the seam. Se how when you glue the seam #5 it brings this around to the front to create the lower jaw? I would say increase the length of that maybe 1/2 to 1 inch on each side and then down about 1 to 2 inches. You would need to ease this increase back into the existing seam.

Your other option would be to build the base pattern as is and just like the brows use a second piece of sheet foam to build out the lower jaw more.

Thanks everyone. I can't wait to get this puppet going. All your ideas are a big help. wish me luck. I willpost photos as I progress. Any suggestions are much appreciated.

MPGrace I want to thank you for the advice about the car wash mitt. I also wanted any ideas for the nose. I thought about sculpting a peice of foam, cover it with fleece, then needle sculpting the nostrils. Also need help with giving it larger feet. Anyone have a large foot pattern to share.?

  THank You Shawn, Billy & Na

I have a couple of video's on noses you can take a look at and get inspiration...I talk about many idea's but there are many more out there as well...do a search on this site just type in noses and it will be endless discussions....

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?f5YrvpuF2v4" target="youtube">YouTube Video</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?P5GzqHJyPFs" target="youtube">YouTube Video</a>

Hope they help!!

StiqPuppets

If you want a larger foot pattern just increase the one they give you by how may ever inches you want.  

Thanks everyone!! I started my first epuppet today . I decided  to play it safe and went by the pattern.lol. It has been a great learning experience. I know how to correct some mistakes now. And it has givin me an idea of how to accomplish it, But I will be asking question for sure. LOL

Don't be scared of asking questions! We do that all the time here.... a puppet is more experiment than planning.

Melaine9, you can call me Julie. When I first joined the forum many moons ago, before we opened the business that s what I registered under.

Yes, I would sculpt the nose from foam, either a couple of layers of 1' foam or L200 if you want a firmer shape. 

You can also try using 1" foam on the root do pattern, but keep in mind the 1" will restricted the moth movement since the head shape is all one piece, but you can cut the corners of the jaw away from the head to make a separate jaw.

Let me know how you like he flesh Antron.

Julie

Melaine9, you can call me Julie. When I first joined the forum many moons ago, before we opened the business that s what I registered under.

I just point out to everyone that while you can not change the username you log in with you can change the name that is displayed on your post and Profile. In fact I think it is a good thing not to have your username showing.   Just go to your profile and click on "Account Related Settings". You'll see the spot for Name where you can change it.

When I altered one of the project puppet patterns to give one of my characters a bit of an overbite I simply altered the size of my 2 mouthplate pieces. I made the top one a little bit longer and shortened the bottom one by the same amount. So when I had the finished mouthplate it sort of forced a bit of an overbite. You could accomplish a similar result by doing the reverse and making the lower mouthplate piece longer. Then you could add some foam inside the lower jaw to make it a bit stronger.

Welcome to Puppets and Stuff and best of luck in your building!

Thanks again everyone. I cut my mouth plate foam regular size. I had gone to Dollartree and bought 6 carwash sponges that were covered with the micro chenille. I cut the fabric from the sponge and  aquired 6 nice peices of reticulated foam. LOL. So to mack a long story short I cut one foam peice in the shape of the lower mouth peice notched out a place for my thumb and glued it to the original foam mouth peice, Wala! Nice large chin.

I love the Antron fleece Julie. Thanks.