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Need some tips on using props with arm rods and rubber bands  (Read 12737 times)
Patmur
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2013, 02:51:27 pm »

All of our puppets have poly filled hands. I would like to get away from the rubber bands altogether. Is there a way to do it without remaking hands.? We have 22 puppets. I have searched the posts and see where doll joints can be used but with foam. Also..zip ties, velcro, elastic. Just wondering what you like
MsPuppet
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2013, 02:10:19 am »

All our rod arms have Velcro. We make and. Sell them (on our website).  I don't like the stress rubber bands put on the hand/arm.  Whatever you use the important thing is to take the rods off each time when you are finished.  Storing puppets with rods attached stresses the fabric.  One company used to put  zip ties on the arms. I've had a number of those puppets come in the shoppe, people wanting the arms repaired where the zip ties rubbed holes in the arms.
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2013, 08:57:22 am »

You can  bend a loop in the end of the rod then sew that to the center of the palm. You just don't have as much control over the hand as you would if you use the doll joint method. You could put a doll joint in without completely remaking the hands if you wanted to. simply open up the seam along the side of the hand opposite the thumb. Pull out some of the stuffing. Then embed your doll joint between two pieces of foam cut to about the size and shape of the palm where you pulled out the stuffing. Insert back into the palm an then hand sew the seam back up. Just leave the fingers stuffed. In fact if you wanted to retro fit an existing hand to be poseable you could make embedded the wire into this round disk also and push the wire up into the fingers along with the poly fill. Not perfect and you do want to try and get the wire up the center of the filling but it can work. Smiley
Patmur
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2013, 12:28:14 pm »

I think I will try to re do one. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks!!!
StiqPuppet Productions
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 12:30:17 am »

I use props and what I have fallen in love with is using EARTH MAGNETS...this might be to late now for u but in the future I put metal washers in places just under the "skin" material and attach magnets to the props, and it really works well for me. They don't fall off you can really shake the living fleece out of it so you do have more freedom to move the puppet. All the best!

Stiq  Smiley
Patmur
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 08:46:38 am »

Well, I do have to learn things the hard way.  I can't bend a loop in the rods I have but I do need that strong of a rod.  (Our youth puppeteers are tough on things.) I have started making wristbands the color of the puppet with velcro.  Just have to get rid of the rubber bands.  I like the idea of magnets too.  Will research that. Thanks
Shawn Sorrell
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 12:22:15 pm »

Pat,
If you are using spring/piano wire it can be very hard to bend but if you put the wire into a vice you should be able to bend the end over.  That is what I always did.  Not always so much a loop as a U kind of.
Snail
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2013, 07:33:03 pm »

The kids wear those plastic wrist bands so we cut some down to use on the puppet wrists and hid the velcro attachment under the band.  Rubber bands have a bad habit of breaking when you least expect it. Those hair elastics bands might not break if you can find them in the right color for the skin.
Patmur
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2013, 06:05:26 am »


So far this seems to work OK.  I have added a wristband the color of the puppet to the end of the arm rod.  Once it is wrapped the velcro won't show but think I probably need to use flesh colored.  We don't store the arm rods on the puppets but just general use with rubber bands makes a noticeable difference in the structure of the puppet arm. 
A big thanks to Julie at Out Of The Box Puppets.  She sent me some "scraps" with my last order.  I have plenty to make wristbands and then some.  A real blessing!
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