Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Gail on Jun 27, 2011
Posted by: StiqPuppet Productions on Sep 23, 2009
Hey I have used "Green" Contact Cement by LePage.  To speed up the drying process use a Hairdryer it works great speeds things up.  I will be doing a glueing workshop at my show on Monday at 9PM EST.  

Daryl H
Thanks, I gave Green contact cement another try with hairdryer and I love it. Even used a can that was years old and it worked, had to dry it longer but I love the way it holds and made a thin, not too stiff seam. I am using hot glue less and less.  In Texas it gets so hot that it will come undone on me. Also I have to remake my puppets a lot for ever changing scripts and I hate glued on hair that cannot be changed so I use those long doll needles and baste the hair on so I can rip it off later. Really appreciate your encouragement to keep trying to use the less fumes product.
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Sid on Jan 03, 2012
I'm a big fan of using Barge for L200 foam construction, recently I saw a friend of mine mixing in MEKP. He said it made the Barge 10X better. I'm a little weary on trying this. Has anyone used this technique before?
thx
 
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Shawn on Jan 03, 2012
Not I, but this would make me leary... "a high explosive similar to acetone peroxide" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_ethyl_ketone_peroxide
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Sid on Jan 03, 2012
Yeah, I use it as the "kicker" for fiberglass molds but it's always in small amounts, 7-15% depending on the cure time desired. It's well known in the industry to be hazardous even in small quantities. My friend mixed in about 15-20% into his Barge. The negatives may out-weigh the positives in this instance. thanks for your feedback.
-s
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Gail on Jan 07, 2012
I am a chemist,I used to work in toxicology and pathology. We use EPA website to find the side effects of chemicals. My favorite is Hazardous Substance Database  http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/htmlgen?HSDB
Put the chemical name in the search, if result comes up click on the chemical name, then on the left side choose Human Health Effects.  MEKP Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide is also called 2-BUTANONE PEROXIDE CAS 1338-23-4. Chemicals have many different names so we use the American Chemial Society CAS number to help us find synonymn names for the same chemical. And the health effects for this one are really bad, severe eye hazard, blindness, some died from ingestion.  I would not have this chemical in a house where children lived no mater how good it worked.
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by zooooom on May 23, 2012
What about "Better Bond Titan DX™ Premium Contact Cement" ?
http://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Better-Bond-Titan-DX-Premium-Contact-Cement.html
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Shawn on May 24, 2012
Titan DX™ Premium Contact Cement looks very promising. Have you used it by any chance Zooooom?  I have used other water based contact cements like this and they have done ok. The price is really good on this product also.
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by zooooom on May 24, 2012
No I haven't. I'm also looking for odorless contact cement so I've find it . There is some negative comments about this glue so Im not sure about a quality http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/adhesives.pl?read=711486 or maybe this is a result of misuse because water based cements are different as somebody explain here http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Using_WaterBased_Contact_Cements.html

I've find some more solvent free cements but have never tryed them yet

1. http://www.wilsonartadhesives.com/products/adhesives.aspx?p=ca&sp=13
Description http://sustain.wilsonart.com/productlib/techdata/adhesives/WA%20H2O%20Technical%20Data%20Sheet.pdf

2. Multibond Contact Cement  http://www.franklinadhesivesandpolymers.com/Wood-Adhesives-US/Wood-Adhesives/product-family/Multibond-family/Multibond_Contact_Cement.aspx

3. Helmibond http://www.berenson.ca/documents/0776ET%20TDS.pdf

4. DAP® Weldwood http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=48&SubcatID=8

5. Johnsonite #945 Contact Bond Adhesive  http://www.johnsonite.com/WallBaseFinishesAccessories/Adhesives/tabid/815/Default.aspx
Description  http://www.johnsonite.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=6Fhn3OLEk7o%3D&tabid=815

Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by Shawn on May 24, 2012
I think that a water based contact can work ok but like you found in some of your research they can take longer to dry and are very reliant on the humidity and temperature of the environment you are working in.  I've used DAP Weldwood before with varying results.  I continue to go back to solvent based adhesives simply because I feel they are more reliable and not as picky about the current environment conditions.  Kansas City tends to be very drastic in it's weather and often is quite humid. It could be that in your area you would not have the same issues that I've had with water based solvents.  I say give them a try.  I know others use them and love them.
Re: Foam adheasives and glues. Posted by zooooom on May 24, 2012
I also prefer a solvent based for personal use but I need to find something suitable for workshops because some people are allergic or just cannot stand the smell of  regular cements  :'(
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