Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Russell2005 on Mar 13, 2010
The book I'm reading says to coat the plastecine with vaseline. But, it doesnt tell you how to get it off the plastecine when you pull the paper mache off. Does it just mix in with the plastecine? Do you wipe it off or what?
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Shawn on Mar 13, 2010
Just wipe of the excess if there is any. Some of it going to end up on the inside of your paper mache' piece also and you should wipe it out.
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Russell2005 on Mar 13, 2010
Thanks Shawn. I'm working on my first project as a professional puppeteer. This is the first time making puppet heads from paper mache. I  "Googled" plasticine and found out it's actually made from vaseline.  This is a learning process. But, I got the first three heads modeled.  4 more to go! 
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Russell2005 on Mar 13, 2010
Thought you might like to see a photo.

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Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Shawn on Mar 14, 2010
Looking good. Make sure you get those two pieces paper mache'd back together before they dry out and warp.  I like the "dressing"  on your clay models.  I do the same thing.
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Russell2005 on Mar 14, 2010
Thanks. I got them back together. I like to model them with the eyes and all to see how they'll look...then I pluck them out before putting on the mache. The paper mache turned out to be a little rough finish. I'm thinking applying a gesso mixture will cure that. Also, I'm going to use Paper Clay for the eyes and ears. I learned about that on a video of yours...um...somewhere. I dont know where you posted that. But, thanks for the tip. Got any good gesso recipes?
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Shawn on Mar 14, 2010
Got any good gesso recipes?
Hobby Lobby!   I just buy off the shelf. I haven't even really found one brand over another that I prefer. 

You can get a smoother finished product by not using news paper.  I like both industrial paper towels (like you see in public rest rooms) and paper sacks like are used for lunches.  Actually it used to be that department stores would put your merchandise in paper sacks and they where just a bit thinner then the lunch paper sacks which was perfect.  Also for finishing coats use tissue paper. If you are like me and lazy then just spread a thin layer of paper clay over the visible area of the face and sand.   After that you gesso and you can end up with a pretty smooth surface.  The brush marks of the gesso and marks from sanding can create a really nice skin texture actually.
Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by Russell2005 on Apr 06, 2010
Shawn,
I've been making progress on my first professional project. Thanks for your advice about the paper towels. That works really well. Here are some pictures of the progress I've made on the heads. I'll start working on the rod arm bodies this week. Hopefully the puppets will be completed by end of April.

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Re: Modeling Paper Mache over Plastecine Posted by DrPuppet on Apr 06, 2010
I did something like this years ago with a product I think was called fabric form. We used to make giant heads. Some of us older guys might remember. It was a stiff sheet that once dipped in acetate became soft and pliable. You then drapped it over your form and work it until it fit perfectly. Once the acetate dried out it was stiff and hard after that and could be machined and worked like a plastic. I dont think they make it anymore it was nasty stuff. Probably took ten years off my life working with it. You know come to think of it fabric form might have been the replacement which used hot water instead of acetate, never did work as well though.

Anyways just rambling thought this was cool and gave me a walk down memory lane.

Jay
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