Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Na on Jan 23, 2010
I kind of understand - but not to be rude, disagree. Art is about presenting an idea, not promoting one. I don't see why people, of any religion, can't view a performance about another culture or religion.
Maybe it's just me: Jewish, but attended a Methodist school for most of my life. I got used to the idea of being presented with other people's religion (many fellow students were not Christian either, and one of my closest friends was a Sikh), without finding it offensive or challenging.
I suppose it's one thing to present another religion to a general audience than it is to a church audience. *shrugs* I don't get it because I'm not religious myself. If I took a play into my local synagogue that had its beginnings in Shinto, I'm not sure how welcome it would be; but do think that if presented the right way it might be taken as simply an exploration of another culture, without necessarily promoting it.
... Hope that makes sense, again I was just curious as I have had a fairly multi-religious upbringing (by accident).
... On a side note, my closest friend performed a mask piece for my university based on a South Korean myth (people leave their shoes to be eaten every night by the local monster), and used shadow puppetry for it. I don't think anyone in my class thought about the religious background to the story, or felt like she was promoting religion - just that she was presenting a folk tale in a visually interesting way. We enjoyed it for the art and storytelling... so it can be done!
Maybe it's just me: Jewish, but attended a Methodist school for most of my life. I got used to the idea of being presented with other people's religion (many fellow students were not Christian either, and one of my closest friends was a Sikh), without finding it offensive or challenging.
I suppose it's one thing to present another religion to a general audience than it is to a church audience. *shrugs* I don't get it because I'm not religious myself. If I took a play into my local synagogue that had its beginnings in Shinto, I'm not sure how welcome it would be; but do think that if presented the right way it might be taken as simply an exploration of another culture, without necessarily promoting it.
... Hope that makes sense, again I was just curious as I have had a fairly multi-religious upbringing (by accident).
... On a side note, my closest friend performed a mask piece for my university based on a South Korean myth (people leave their shoes to be eaten every night by the local monster), and used shadow puppetry for it. I don't think anyone in my class thought about the religious background to the story, or felt like she was promoting religion - just that she was presenting a folk tale in a visually interesting way. We enjoyed it for the art and storytelling... so it can be done!
Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Jon on Jan 24, 2010
Stories are about people. I'm a Christian pastor and I understand about wanting to be careful about the messages you promote. I also know that the stories we tell are always about some aspect of the human experience. Because of that some type of values are always presented in any story depending on how the story is told. From my experience as a story teller you can tell most any story without promoting it's religious background. Often times simply by helping you audience know the origens of the story and what it's creators believed is all that is required. Children and adults will enjoy the story for what it is and also appreciate the cultural experience.
Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Shawn on Jan 24, 2010
I'm not familiar with the story you are thinking of using but something to remember, is that almost all fairy tales are in truth morality plays. I agree with the others and they have actually said it very well, that I think you can present the story without actually endorsing if you well the religion that may be behind it.
My father is a southern baptist missionary and pastor. He has studied pretty much every religion there is in an attempt to better understand his.
My father is a southern baptist missionary and pastor. He has studied pretty much every religion there is in an attempt to better understand his.
Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Russell2005 on Jan 24, 2010
I appreciate the input from everybody. Like I said I've spent alot of time thinking about this story and preparing to write the script. (2 months at least) So, I'm kinda committed to it at this point. I guess the problem is that I want to tell the story. But, I want to tell it my own way. I want to present the story and fashion the character to my own standards. Perhaps it would be better to rename the story and the characters to avoid any relationship to the Shinto version Susanoo No Orochi. Or not. I dont know...Maybe I'm overthinking this. Anyhow it's good to have this forum to kinda work through these issues. I'm going to finish writting the script and begin building the characters and scenery. Hopefully the production will be ready by May. Thanks for listening to me ramble.
Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Shawn on Jan 24, 2010
I think this has been a great "ramble"! I am pretty sure every writer goes through the same process and it is kind of cool to see it unfold.
I was curious about the fairy tale in question so googled it.
http://www.theserenedragon.net/Tales/japan-koshi.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto
The first page I linked to seems to evade the religious aspect of the story all together. The second one which is the Wikipeidia has reference to the gods involved in the story. I say use what you want and toss the rest.
I was curious about the fairy tale in question so googled it.
http://www.theserenedragon.net/Tales/japan-koshi.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo-no-Mikoto
The first page I linked to seems to evade the religious aspect of the story all together. The second one which is the Wikipeidia has reference to the gods involved in the story. I say use what you want and toss the rest.
Re: Invent or Steal? Posted by Na on Jan 24, 2010
I think it's a good idea to 'rephrase' the story. I mean, most fables have been retold from Grimm Brothers to Aesop, with new or modern spins. I don't see anything wrong with giving it your own personal touch.
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