Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by miguel on Jul 21, 2009
I think I could make that kind of pattern. Lets see!

Let me try that until this weekend, and I'll post something!
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by BoxGhost on Jul 21, 2009
Thank you, miguel, you're wonderful!
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by StiqPuppet Productions on Jul 21, 2009
For eyes on the some of the Fraggles they used fishing bobbins (they are red on one side and white on the other side and they float on the water).  They come in many sizes and you can pain them and cover them with fleece.

I hope this helps with getting you thinking about eye alternatives.

Daryl H
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by BoxGhost on Jul 21, 2009
That actually does help. I hadn't thought of fishing bobbins. Right now it's looking like the eye size that I'm going to need is 2.5" in diameter. I saw that they also sell plastic fireworks casings that are that size... They have a hole on top for the fuse, but that might be perfect to insert into the fabric and fasten it.

Anyway... I made another prototype today with the help of my good friend adobe illustrator. I laid screen shots of wembley down and traced over it. I know what I was doing wrong now, I think. I still don't know what in the holy heck I'm doing with foam, but I think I may be getting close to a pattern for the fleece that might work. The nose needs to be bigger, but here are a few shots of where I ended up today. Keep in mind that Im using scrap fabric and I don't have the correct eyes on, but you'll get the idea. What you're seeing here is stuffed with polyfill, btw, because I'm having such a hard time with the foam at the moment:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/Fraggle/DSC05443.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/Fraggle/DSC05445.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/Fraggle/DSC05446.jpg

Oh, and if anyone's interested, here is the pattern I used to achieve what I achieved today:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/Fraggle/wembhead3.jpg

Ignore the circles in the head and nose... I drew them in adobe illustrator to get the general shape, and then forgot to erase them.

Also, if anyone wanted to see it, here's my final boober fraggle, minus the scarf. All things considered, I think I'm pretty happy with him, especially since he was my first puppet and I didn't know what I was doing! :P

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/Fraggle/DSC05450.jpg

Thanks for all the help, everyone. I'm getting there, slowly but surely! ^_^
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by Chris Arveson on Jul 21, 2009
Boober is looking great! I suspect that you will succeed with Wembley, and all the struggles you are having with him will make you enjoy the victory all the more.
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by StiqPuppet Productions on Jul 22, 2009
Great Job.....can't wait to see the next one.....I liked that you started with a simpler one and you are working up to the more challenging....nice planning.

Daryl H
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by BoxGhost on Jul 22, 2009
Thanks! Yeah, it's weird for me, actually. Usually I just jump headlong into things and then realize I've bitten off more than I could chew. This time I actually tested the waters with the boober puppet, and since that one worked out all right, I'm ready to move on to this one. I still have a ways to go on this particular puppet, but I'm getting closer to my goal.

After I've finished this one, I'd love to take a crack at one of my own characters. If I decide to do that, I'll definitely post pics of that, too.
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by Shawn on Jul 22, 2009
Compare these two images:
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What are the differences you see?  The nose is separate from the snout.  There is a seam at the cheek.  The bottom jaw is longer then in yours. Miguel might come up with the pattern for you with these elements since he saw the image.  Although Project Puppet might not have a pattern that is right for this project it might help to get one of their patterns. Any of them from the Forma Series should give you a good idea of 2d to 3d relationship.  I am pretty sure there is a "version" of the seam at the cheek in their pattern. 
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by miguel on Jul 22, 2009
You are right Mr. Sorrel! I got already the jaw part pattern, but the top still working on it. I gues the difficut part for me will be the bac part of the top head (I mean, to make it see round)

When I finish, I will scan it, and post it!

Miguel!
Re: A Few Questions from a Beginner Puppet Making Person Posted by Jon on Jul 22, 2009
This head looks very cleanly made.  My guess is that the first head did not look this neat and tidy.  The builder fussed with it a bit to get it the way they wanted it.  Foam is nice that way.  You can add and subtract easily to get the shape you want.  Then when you are satisfied you cover it with fabric and no one sees all the adjustment you made to get there.  Keep after the foam shape till you have the shape you want once that's move to the covering.  I find fabricating easy.  Time consuming but easy.
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