Advice about selling at markets Posted by Na on Jul 31, 2009
Hi guys,

I'm back from the puppet festival and am planning on getting set up to sell at a local craft market. I was wondering if anyone could share info about how/what they do:

  • How do you deal with the weather if you're outside?
  • How much stock do you take (ie. say I take a bunch of my shadow puppets, how many duplicates of each should I have)?
  • I'm thinking of setting up a small section where people can build their own puppets right there, right then. How much would be a good price to charge - if materials are about $10 per person, is $15 reasonable to ask for?
  • Is it a good idea to only sell one type of puppet? I was thinking of taking all my current products with me (patterns, puppet parts, shadow puppets, maybe build some kits just to sell there) - but since it's my first stall, should I focus on one thing instead?
  • What about advertising? Does anyone advertise their stall BEFORE the event? And if so, how/where do you do it?
  • How much do people sell in order to break even/make a profit? (I know that's hard to answer, but I'm wondering: do people mark up the prices to include the cost of the stall hire, or do people use the same prices as normal - if selling online/elsewhere - and then have to sell more to break even?)
... and anything else you could think of adding, please do. I'm sure I've missed some important questions, but for now this will do for a start/

Thanks guys!
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Shawn on Aug 01, 2009
How do you deal with the weather if you're outside?
Bring a lot of tarps/plastic cover.  Oh and a dry pair of cloths.    If you have it available or they rent them at the fair a tent cover is good to have.

How much stock do you take (ie. say I take a bunch of my shadow puppets, how many duplicates of each should I have)?
As much as you can fit in the car. You don't want to run out of stock. You really never know what is going to sell at a festival.  Location and the other sellers can impact what you sell. Even entertainment (if the festival has it) can impact what you sell. Keep a record of what sells at each venue for next year if you do it again. Don't forget to think of current trends.  Your client base is not going to be puppeteers but the general public for the most part.  Are mermaids in this year or fish?  What movies just came out for kids.  Unless they are high end puppets that an adult might buy as art, you are going to be selling to children.

I'm thinking of setting up a small section where people can build their own puppets right there, right then. How much would be a good price to charge - if materials are about $10 per person, is $15 reasonable to ask for?
I would suggest not doing this on the first time out.  Are you the only one running the booth?  Can you afford to spend an hour with someone makeing a puppet and lose the sells during that one hour?   I've done the make and take in the past, but hired someone to manage it instead of myself.  I always did better at sitting and makeing a puppet myself. It would attract attention (a crowd) and often then sells.

Is it a good idea to only sell one type of puppet? I was thinking of taking all my current products with me (patterns, puppet parts, shadow puppets, maybe build some kits just to sell there) - but since it's my first stall, should I focus on one thing instead?
See my answer above, remember what your client base might be.  It won't hurt to have the patterns and parts but I think you are more likely to sell finnished products or perhaps the kits.

What about advertising? Does anyone advertise their stall BEFORE the event? And if so, how/where do you do it?
I don't think this is really needed unless you have an established client base that you want to inform.  I would post on your site the fact that you are going to be there and the information about the event.

How much do people sell in order to break even/make a profit? (I know that's hard to answer, but I'm wondering: do people mark up the prices to include the cost of the stall hire, or do people use the same prices as normal - if selling online/elsewhere - and then have to sell more to break even?)
Yep you have to take the cost of booth rental into consideration.  It is the same as shipping, web cost, building rental.
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Na on Aug 03, 2009
Thanks so much for this Shawn; you really gave me some things to think about, and I'm more on the right track now.

Posted by: Shawn Sorrell on Aug 01, 2009
I would suggest not doing this on the first time out.  Are you the only one running the booth?  Can you afford to spend an hour with someone makeing a puppet and lose the sells during that one hour?   I've done the make and take in the past, but hired someone to manage it instead of myself.  I always did better at sitting and makeing a puppet myself. It would attract attention (a crowd) and often then sells.

Do you mean you sit there and make a puppet, just as something to fill in the time, and that attracts people? ... Also, if I went down that road, I would definitely have someone help me out; probably someone making sales for me, whilst I worked on the building puppets area. But you're right, it's a stretch, and for my first time at a market, I think I'll just stick with the basics for the time being and see how it goes.

I booked myself in today for a market in three months time... so I hope I can be ready in time! I have to start building stock!!!
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Shawn on Aug 03, 2009
Yep I used to sit and work on a puppet at ren fairs.  It always attracted a lot of attention. People like to watch demonstrations. 
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Na on Aug 04, 2009
Thanks Shawn, that's what I thought you meant. I think that's a great idea, as well as something that I can easily do to pass the time (better than reading a book at any rate!)

I'm considering the following as my product range: shadow puppets, sock puppets, and finger puppets. I'm currently on the fence about having muppet kits. I think I could probably sell a few (conning a friend into walking the market with one of my muppets would get some sells - the market I'm going to is very crafty, and I think there may be a few people who would buy), but am not sure of what exactly to put in the kits.

The issue is mainly fleece and some of the other materials; making even 5 kits would be very expensive for me, and I'm not sure I have the budget for it at this stage. Is it worth even attempting to sell a kit with the following: a CD of the pattern (plus some bonus videos or something on it; stuff you can't get currently with my downloadable pattern), a pair of eyes, a pack of noses? I can extend it to include the mouth plate materials, which are cheap, it's just once I add foam and fleece it gets expensive.

What do you think?
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Billy D. Fuller on Aug 04, 2009
How about selling your pattern................. Could be that folks just might like to make there own puppet. You could sell your eyes as well.( at least take a few pair of everything) folks can always order from the website. Don't forget business cards.

Billy D.
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Shawn on Aug 04, 2009
What about takeing orders for your kit?  While it may not be as successful as haveing them made up and available for take home it would give you an idea of how many folks might be interested in one.  Have one you can display with a notice saying "Orders Being Taken"  or something like that.
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Na on Aug 04, 2009
Posted by: Billy D. Fuller on Aug 04, 2009
How about selling your pattern................. Could be that folks just might like to make there own puppet. You could sell your eyes as well.( at least take a few pair of everything) folks can always order from the website. Don't forget business cards.

That's what I mean: I'd have the pattern to sell, but don't think it will sell very well on its own. So I'd package it up as a kit. (Sorry, maybe I wasn't very clear) But my concern is how many items I can put in a kit without making it look half-assed, and without spending too much money. - And yes, I'll be having lots of business cards with me

Posted by: Shawn Sorrell on Aug 04, 2009
What about takeing orders for your kit?  While it may not be as successful as haveing them made up and available for take home it would give you an idea of how many folks might be interested in one.  Have one you can display with a notice saying "Orders Being Taken"  or something like that.

I'm not sure that will work; the craft market is pretty popular here (they were booked out three months in advance!) and large, and I think if people see 'orders being taken', they'll just assume I've got nothing physically to sell right there and then, and move on. Without actual kits in front of them, I don't think anyone will actually order them. I think I'll have a ponder on this one, maybe make up a small kit as a prototype, and see how enticing it looks.
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Shawn on Aug 05, 2009
Don't make it a big sign, just make is something that they see when the look a the example of the kit.  
Re: Advice about selling at markets Posted by Billy D. Fuller on Aug 05, 2009
Why not assemble kits while you are there. It would be giving some what of a demonstration and you would be getting work done at the same time. I had a TV at the market when I was selling and always kept a video playing. A lot of people would stop just to watch............ which gave me time to strike up a conversation.
I would sell the patterns separately as well as the kits.

Billy D.
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