so i wanna make a dark gothic character....but i have no ideas.... any ideas will help thanks

What type of ideas are you looking for?  Do you have a show or play in mind you want to use them with?  I would say the first step would be to buy a lot of black fabric.   Dracula is often a gothic character that is dark but I have a feeling that is not what you are looking for.

I Love the Grimstones................ but I agree with Shawn. Try looking at gothic pictures and see if any ideas come from that. I tend to like vampires myself. I'm a old Dracula fan.

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&biw=1680&bih=776&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=gothic+puppets+pictures&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

thats great! thanks for the tips i think i have somthing in mind now.

how many people have you heard about doing goth muppet puppets?

Common denominators... dark around the eyes, piercings with jewelry, spiked choker necklaces, black flowing clothing. Sometimes spike hair and/or bright colors in the hair.

thanks rocky! i love all contructive ideas.

no i have no show to do shawn... im kinda thinking i want to build my brand around gothic puppets...my first one was cross stitch the one in my gallery he was supposed to be a villian on project puppet but whatever... now i want to market to the HOT TOPIC kind of kind of kids...on another note what would you think of putting a zipper down cross stitches face, down the middle where the seam would naturaly be. i want hes head to unzip to a even creepier face under. how would i go about doing that with the roly patttern from project puppet?

Hmm... zipper to reveal a face underneath. Cool idea.  Right of the top of my head I would start by making the puppet to be revealed normally according to the pattern. Then I would size the pattern up so that I could make another face out of headliner foam and fabric.  Headliner foam is what you see on the inside ceiling of your car.  It is very thin foam that has a layer of fabric fused to it. This should give you a "skin" that could fit over the original puppet that has a bit of structure but still be flexible enough you could unzip it and remove it.

I made a alein gothic/emo skater in muppet style character for someone......here is the link to go and see it......http://www.blogtv.com/People/SlaterTheAliEn

Hope that gives you some ideas.

Daryl H