size wire arm manipulation Posted by phoenix on Oct 14, 2010
hello friends i´m spanish not be speak in enghlish .
I will use a translator.
I know its page logins of the same, has helped me a lot thanks.
I wanted to ask that size is wire arm manipulation.

Thanks a lot
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Billy D. Fuller on Oct 14, 2010
Posted by: phoenix on Oct 14, 2010
I wanted to ask that size is wire arm manipulation.
Thanks a lot

Welcome to Puppets and Stuff....................... I'm assuming you are talking about "Arm Rods" Correct me if I'm wrong.
Here is a recent discussion we had on the subject of arm rods. Rods vary in size according to the puppet builder. To give you a idea about the size of a wire clothes hanger or piano wire.
http://puppetsandstuff.com/community/index.php/topic,5802.0.html

Billy D.

Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Shawn on Oct 14, 2010
We have some Spanish speaking members.  I hope they well see this and post to you in Spanish.  That might help you understand better.  Feel free to post your questions in Spanish also if you want. 

Cloths hanger is a good size like Billy said. I am not sure what that is in Millimeters though and I think you are on the metric system.

The length of the rod is up to you.  You may have to experiment and see what is comfortable for you.  You do need it to be longer then the height of your puppet.  If you have your puppet touch his head you want your rod to still be below the bottom of the body so it well not show to the audience.
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by phoenix on Oct 14, 2010
muchas gracias alos dos por sus excelentes explicaciones ,yo me referia ala respuesta de shawn
para la varilla yo utilizo  varilla de fibra para estores cortinas ,que envuelvo en cinta aislaste negra y se pone en 5 mm ,tengo tambien cuerda de pianao una es de 0´5 o 1 mm no estoy seguro y otra mas gruesa de 1´5 mm ,que me dijo el de ferreteria que era la mas gruesa que habia .

el ultimo muñeco le puse una varilla de paraguas que se ponia en 5 mm con la cinta aislante
creo que voy a utilizar la de 1´5 que es fuerte y casi ni se ve.

el largo de la varilla le pongo yo 50 cm que poniendole la mano se queda en unos 44 cm , pero me paredce demasiado larga que medida me recomendarias yo mido 1´78con zapatos unos 1´82
 
gracias de antemanoi.
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Shawn on Oct 15, 2010
From the translation of your post at Google, it sounds like you have found some pretty good options for rods on your puppet. It was a little hard to follow the translation but I think you used curtain rods and you like those.  Are they clear plastic? Other puppeteers have used those before.  The wire out of an umbrella has been used before also and that would work fine but may bend and break after some use.

What is " pianao"?  I don't think the translator understood that word.

How tall is your puppet?  50cm = 19 inches and that sounds short for an arm rod to me.  Do you think it is too long for your puppet?  Do you have some pictures of the puppet?  That may help use understand.


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thank you very much for your excellent alos two explanations, I was referring wing response shawn
for the rod fiber rod I use for blinds curtains that wrap in black insulating tape and placed in 5 mm, I have also pianao a rope is 0.5 or 1 mm not sure and another thicker than 1.5 mm, I said hardware you was the thickest it had.

the last doll I put an umbrella rod that was put in 5 mm with duct tape
I think I will use the 1.5 which is strong and hardly seen.

the rod length 50 cm I put him putting his hand that stays about 44 cm, but I paredce too long to recommend me as I measure about 1.82 1'78con shoes
 
antemanoi thanks.
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by phoenix on Oct 15, 2010
the translation is not good.
fiber rods are white and the other were strings of piano, the muppet
 measured approximately 21.3 inch, the arm from the shoulder towards hand measured 9 inch without hand

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This is blinds Rod white fibre placed between to do

 the shape.
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wire piano of 1mm.

gracias.
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Billy D. Fuller on Oct 15, 2010
I Love your puppet.................. Great job.............Thank you for sharing the pictures.

Billy D.
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Shawn on Oct 15, 2010
I understand now. I like to use the piano wire for my rods.  The rods in your picture look right to me.  Nice puppet!
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by phoenix on Oct 16, 2010
thank you very much
who could ask for the price.
As would be worth money
Greetings
Re: size wire arm manipulation Posted by Shawn on Oct 16, 2010
Are you asking what to charge for a puppet like the one you made?  Since you are in Spain it is hard to really give you advice on this.  The best thing to do is to add up all the cost of materials to make the puppet and then add on top of that the hours you spent making it times an hourly wage.  What  is an average hourly wage in Spain?  You would want to use that as your hourly wage. 

In the United States I would say between $18.00 to $20.00 per hour.  Most puppets like what you have made would sale for between $30.00 to $50.00.
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