Re: Cat puppet construction by LaFontsee Character Design Posted by Characterman on Apr 12, 2011
NOT bored at all!!! In fact, Frazetta is one my fantasy artist heroes, too!!
I've heard that same rot from other art "teachers"...well, if they're that tied up in knots over "fine" vs. "commercial" (many of these same snotty know-it-alls call what I do "folk art", as if it's something far beneath them. I usually get the "tone" when they say it, as if I'm some slimey single celled creature that's just crawled from the primordial ooze), they can go pound sand. I'd like to see some of these "fine" artists do what we do....and cram in twenty years of experience and knowledge, not to mention how many different disciplines to do it.
Here's a story from my caricaturing days:
I was doing speed caricatures in Eagle River, WI for the Cherry Festival, circa 1992. It was near time of closing the midway, where I was. I was set up next to the beer tent. This little girl came over, and said she only had ten bucks that her Mom gave her, would I still be able to draw a caricature of her. I figured, hey, it's a kid, and she's my last one of the night, why not?
So, I started drawing. Her Mother, drunk as the proverbial skunk, comes out from the beer tent, and begins to harangue this little kid in front of a crowd of about thrity people that are watching me do my thing, telling her what a fat little piece of whatever she is for spending her ten bucks she could be drinking with, on a stupid"cartoon". After calling the kid names for several minutes, and dissing my abilities, putting me down as much as she thought she could, in order to get that drawing for free, I finally had enough, stood up, and said in my loudest stage voice (for all to hear): "Ladies and Gentlemen!! This fine young lady would now like to demonstrate what a wonderfully talented, albeit inebriated and abusive artist she is...madam, if you'll please take my drawing instruments and prove to the crowd your prowess with the art supplies?!" She stammered, the security people came over and escorted her away. I gave the drawing to the kid, and told her to keep her ten bucks, she'd earned it for being a good girl and great subject. I often shudder to think what happened to that poor kid later on, when that witch got her home.
Thing is, there's one in every crowd. Somebody always wants to pretend they're better, more knowledgeable. Well, let 'em be. Let 'em prove it.
In the case of people who make puppets, everyone of us can tell the non-puppet people loads that they don't know. So, the heck with 'em.
Larry LaFontsee
LaFontsee Character Designn
Fox Valley, WI
I've heard that same rot from other art "teachers"...well, if they're that tied up in knots over "fine" vs. "commercial" (many of these same snotty know-it-alls call what I do "folk art", as if it's something far beneath them. I usually get the "tone" when they say it, as if I'm some slimey single celled creature that's just crawled from the primordial ooze), they can go pound sand. I'd like to see some of these "fine" artists do what we do....and cram in twenty years of experience and knowledge, not to mention how many different disciplines to do it.
Here's a story from my caricaturing days:
I was doing speed caricatures in Eagle River, WI for the Cherry Festival, circa 1992. It was near time of closing the midway, where I was. I was set up next to the beer tent. This little girl came over, and said she only had ten bucks that her Mom gave her, would I still be able to draw a caricature of her. I figured, hey, it's a kid, and she's my last one of the night, why not?
So, I started drawing. Her Mother, drunk as the proverbial skunk, comes out from the beer tent, and begins to harangue this little kid in front of a crowd of about thrity people that are watching me do my thing, telling her what a fat little piece of whatever she is for spending her ten bucks she could be drinking with, on a stupid"cartoon". After calling the kid names for several minutes, and dissing my abilities, putting me down as much as she thought she could, in order to get that drawing for free, I finally had enough, stood up, and said in my loudest stage voice (for all to hear): "Ladies and Gentlemen!! This fine young lady would now like to demonstrate what a wonderfully talented, albeit inebriated and abusive artist she is...madam, if you'll please take my drawing instruments and prove to the crowd your prowess with the art supplies?!" She stammered, the security people came over and escorted her away. I gave the drawing to the kid, and told her to keep her ten bucks, she'd earned it for being a good girl and great subject. I often shudder to think what happened to that poor kid later on, when that witch got her home.
Thing is, there's one in every crowd. Somebody always wants to pretend they're better, more knowledgeable. Well, let 'em be. Let 'em prove it.
In the case of people who make puppets, everyone of us can tell the non-puppet people loads that they don't know. So, the heck with 'em.
Larry LaFontsee
LaFontsee Character Designn
Fox Valley, WI
Re: Cat puppet construction by LaFontsee Character Design Posted by Rikka on Apr 13, 2011
Besides, once you need all this much time decideding which art is fine, which is folk and which isn't even art at all- where do you take time for inspiration?
Somehow it reminded me of a Story of Beuys: he schmeared (nice word!) butter in a corner (the famous "Fettecke", Fat Corner) of a room (this was the 28th of April, 1982 in the Düsseldorfer Kunstakademie. (Fine art, everybody!). 1986, nine months after Beuys died, the caretaker cleaned it up. 40.000,- DM had to be paid. Same thing happend when a maid cleaned a bath tub in a museum 1973- it was a Beuys original, too. So those critics better be careful- once you're officially an artist, people might sue them!
Somehow it reminded me of a Story of Beuys: he schmeared (nice word!) butter in a corner (the famous "Fettecke", Fat Corner) of a room (this was the 28th of April, 1982 in the Düsseldorfer Kunstakademie. (Fine art, everybody!). 1986, nine months after Beuys died, the caretaker cleaned it up. 40.000,- DM had to be paid. Same thing happend when a maid cleaned a bath tub in a museum 1973- it was a Beuys original, too. So those critics better be careful- once you're officially an artist, people might sue them!
Re: Cat puppet construction by LaFontsee Character Design Posted by Shawn on Apr 13, 2011
I was not aware of Joseph Beuys work so looked him up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Beuys While I was at it I looked up Düsseldorfer Kunstakademie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunstakademie_D%C3%BCsseldorf
Re: Cat puppet construction by LaFontsee Character Design Posted by Rikka on Apr 13, 2011
thoroughgoing, aren't ya?
Re: Cat puppet construction by LaFontsee Character Design Posted by VampireWombat on Apr 13, 2011
Ahh... "Fine art" vs other forms of art. Taking a couple of art history classes taught me that I have no appreciation for "art" and that much of it makes no sense to me. Why some things which require no skill at all are considered art while Fantasy and Sci fi art tends not to be. Or how an event involving a copyrighted shade of blue paint is considered artistic and can involve wine and an orchestra. But if you do the exact same thing, but replace the paint with mud and the wine with beer, you have "mud wrestling".
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