Logo Critique Posted by TygerMin on Feb 16, 2014
I am attempting to get a mascot based logo created using Fiverr.  And yes, I do know that you get what you pay for, just don't have the money for a more professional look.  Anyway, starting off with the two mascots.  Here is the first:

Message Image

That is my online persona holding the first puppet I ever created.  So, I am a bit bias.  The other mascot will be a female version.  The two of them will be standing on the organization's name. 
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Na on Feb 17, 2014
I'm a little confused: you're saying you've got two images, and this is one of them, and both are going to be standing on the name?

If so, my first thought is that it's quite busy. There's a lot of detail and most of it won't be seen in a small logo. Imagine it on a business card: I doubt you could easily make out the cross, or the detail on the puppet. I have trouble distinguishing the nose on the puppet from its teeth or tongue. The larger the logo is, the harder it is to fit on business cards and other small things and still get your other info on it.

This should be countered with: I really like the artwork itself. It's well drawn and colourful, and if you think it suits your style than that's a plus too. (I don't know you well enough to say whether it fits your style)
I certainly think you got good graphics design value for money, I just worry that it's not quite right for a logo.

Just my 2 cents.

There's a good place to read up about logo designs, I'll link to the search page for it:
The vital tips article is good reading, as is the common mistakes one.

... One other thing: make sure that you know what your copyrights are in this situation with the designer. Usually you get the copyrights to whatever is designed for you, but double check to be sure. And ask for the original files, that is the vector file formats, as well as high resolution .pngs. That way if you want to edit or change things or resize or whatever, it's easier to do without having to go to the graphic designer every time.
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Shawn on Feb 17, 2014
I think he looks great. He is a good clean graphic I think. True you lose some of the detail when smaller. In fact the site here sizes down your image for display so you can kind of see what it will look like in small format and what is lost.

Na brings up some good points about being able to "fit" your logo in different formats. I do think that you could use this and the female version in say the graphics for the header of a website or on flyers and such but you also need something small and simple enough that can be on a business card or small add in print. Don't forget that you can mix and match so to speak. A couple good examples of this would be Pepsi, WalMart and McDonalds. Not only are their names part of their logo/brand but they also have a fairly simple graphic to represent them. Try a google image search of your favorite name brand product and you'll see examples of what I am talking about.
Re: Logo Critique Posted by TygerMin on Feb 17, 2014
Thank you Na, those are some areas I will need to look into.  The guy is currently working on the female and logo aspects, so I will have a good idea soon.  Though, I am keeping the characters seperate as well, so Shawn hits the nail on the head with that one.  I do plan on recreating that puppet in black light, and will create the one the female character will be holding as its the same just pink.  Might possibly consider focusing on those two with the tiger's used more on the site and promotional materials. 

As for copyright, the TOS include:

Ownership and limitations: unless clearly stated otherwise in the Gig description text, when the work is delivered, the buyer is granted all intellectual property rights, including but not limited to, copyrights for the work delivered from the seller and the seller waives any and all moral rights therein. For removal of doubt, in custom created work (such as art work, design work, report generation etc.), the delivered work shall be the exclusive property of buyer. The seller expressly agrees to assign to buyer the copyright in any delivered work that do not meet the requirements of a work-for-hire under the U.S. Copyright Act. Additionally, independent of the U.S. Copyright Act, the seller agrees that unless indicated otherwise in the Gig description, once the order is completed the seller assigns along with it to the buyer, to the fullest extent possible under the law, all of its rights, title and interest, if any, in and to the delivered work and waives any and all moral rights in connection therewith. All transfer and assignment of intellectual property to buyer shall be subject to full payment for the Gig.

Doesn't seem fair for the small amount paid, but it is known going in.  I do have a quote out with a more professional company, though I don't think I can afford that at this time.
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Na on Feb 17, 2014
No problems. I know picking a new logo is extremely difficult. And good to hear you're covered with copyrights.

As for pricing .... Beatriz Vega, a member here, has done a lot of people's logos (including my own and some other graphics) and has always been quite reasonably priced. I also got a logo done on Etsy for $38 USD which was extremely professional. This is the shop:

Can't recommend either of them enough.
Re: Logo Critique Posted by TygerMin on Feb 17, 2014
Thank you, I will check into that   Yeah, logo design is definitly difficult.  I know what I want, but what I want might not work or it may be viewed differently by others.  That tiger figure, had it as a mascot for an entertainment based ministry I was dreaming up a few years ago.  The name TygerMin Productions also carries an aspect of it, Tyger Ministries.  Those dreams are still alive, just through a different outlet now.  So coming up with a logo has been interesting.  It is amazing how things evolve. 
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Na on Feb 17, 2014
Yeah, I've just recently gone through the same issue myself. It's very tricky to get the right look, and to figure out how to process all your thoughts and ideas into a simple format for a logo. I think the key is to think about colours, style, emotion, content (ie. what you're trying to say) and somehow filter it all down from there. With my most recent one it helped that I already had some of these things worked out, like a colour scheme for my products, designs of my products, etc. The designer actually based the design around what I showed her of my website so that the logo would fit in with what I was already working on.

I honestly have no idea how someone managed to match my own style, but apparently it's possible!
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Out of the Box Puppets on Feb 17, 2014
I highly recommend Beatriz Vega, maybe Shawn can post her contact info. She created our logo.

Re: Logo Critique Posted by Na on Feb 17, 2014
Her email is beavega4 AT gmail DOT com. I could swear she has a website, but for the life of me can't think of it right now. It doesn't seem to be obviously in my bookmarks either.
Re: Logo Critique Posted by Shawn on Feb 18, 2014
I am with you Na, I thought I had a website for her but can't find it. Her profile here does have a bit of info about making a logo. http://puppetsandstuff.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=1961

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