Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Feb 19, 2018
And that's not gonna work.  Guessing due to distance and materials, I need a good pull to open the mouth.  Was trying to not have a false arm, but looks like I will still need to do that.  I suppose an arm at my chest is better than above my head?  /sigh
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Feb 21, 2018
The current plan on visibility is through an amulet that will be tinted plastic.  Going to decorate it up, and add a chain around the neck.  Currently debating on whether to look for a diamond or circle, either way it is going to be a bit bigger than I had anticipated.  I have done several costumes, and always looking at finding better visibility options!

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Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by Shawn on Feb 21, 2018
Well I think the diamond may look less like a view port once completed. I recently worked a show http://danieltigerlive.com/ where most the characters had strips or a pattern in their "skin".  On the heads those where view ports which allowed for seeing even out the sides of heads.
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Feb 22, 2018
First, that is awesome!  Must be interesting to work on shows like that.  Anyway, Googled the characters, that is an interesting idea.  In the past, I have utilized vents due to the angle of the metal, I could see out and you could only see me at certain angles.  I have wondered if that was doable with foam, would make some good gills on this character. 
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Feb 27, 2018
So...yeah, getting discouraged on the mouth mechanism.  Filmed this as part of a monthly update on the fish room, and starting to think he needs to be more mascot.  So brainstorming for other ideas.  Maybe LED lights around the amulet that brighten when I talk?  Is that even possible?  Thought about having him talk through a puppet even.  Not sure now. 

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Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by Gail on Feb 27, 2018
What is it that you are unhappy with the most?

It looks like you are pulling pretty hard to open the mouth pretty wide. I would not open my puppet's mouth that wide unless he was yelling. Most mouth movements are much smaller for talking. Also it would help if the neck swiveled some instead of being so stiff to make it look more alive. Because you cannot see the movements it will be hard for you to adjust to make them better, unless you video tape and study or have a screen feed back inside to see as you move.  If you added feathers or other wiggly bits to the head top or whiskers by nose that moved sympathetically with your movements it would also add to the alive look without much effort on your part. Not sure I understand what the amulet is and why you want to light it up.  I am impressed with what you have done so far.
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Feb 27, 2018
hmm...some very good points.  I need to do some more work with it, mostly a moment of frustration.  Now trying to figure out why I was so insistent on opening the mouth so wide....might be an issue with the springs...but I can probably make that work too.  Thank you!

The amulet will be my view port, a decorated piece of smoked acrylic.  Figured that would be the best way to incorporate vision without taking too much of the illusion away.   
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by Gail on Feb 28, 2018
Oh I get it, creative idea to use amulet as view point. Frustrations when solved are called inventions, you will get there.
Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by TygerMin on Mar 04, 2018
Two steps forward...three steps back.  My wife started skinning the character:

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And apparently, the screws I used to attach the mouth plate weren't long enough as the head started to bobble.  Screws popped right out, essentially breaking his neck.  Had to open him up for emergency surgery.  Had to open the front of the body up as well as the back of the head to diagnose the problem.  But three longer screws and wood glue later, was able to stitch him back up.

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Re: Neck armature/skeleton for big puppet Posted by Shawn on Mar 04, 2018
You are not alone in this.  I've had many builds that have gone this way.

Other then the set back he looks like he is coming along nicely.
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