The Night Time Engagers Posted by Hilltop on Jun 27, 2008
 I am knew to this site so I thought I start off with asking your opinions. 

These are two puppet heads I just finished the bodies are coming slowly but surely.  Please tell me what you think. 

The Second one has a moving mouth.

Here is a brighter Picture for everyone.
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by gompie on Jun 28, 2008
I hardly can see them the picture are so dark......
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Hilltop on Jun 28, 2008
it doesn't help that I can only load 1200kb of photos.  So the quality is low sorry.
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Shawn on Jun 28, 2008
I like what I can see of them!  Like Gompie, I wish the images where lit a bit better. You should be able to get lighter images even with the restriction of 1200kb on file size.
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Hilltop on Jun 28, 2008
Well I could lighten them up a lot more.  But that wouldn't be light that an audience would see them in.  What use is criticism on flaws only seen out of their element?  They probably wont ever be seen in full light on stage. 

Plus the 1200kb remark referred to their resolution not the lightness. 
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Na on Jun 28, 2008
I think the point is that it's hard to give you an opinion of the puppets given that we can't see them clearly in the photos. Try taking shots of them outside during the day, or with the flash on your camera.

I doubt that your audience will see your puppets in such a dim light, and it really is hard to tell what the puppets look like from the images you provided. I do like the design of them though!
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Ron G. on Jun 28, 2008
Hi Hilltop, welcome to the group. 

I'm glad that you found us and took the time to share photos of your work. We always enjoy seeing what people are doing and hearing about their life in puppetry.

Please don't feel too defensive, we're not being critical of you or your work, only stating a simple fact. Viewing still photos is different from viewing a performance in a darkened theater. In a performace we would be able to track the motion of the puppets, and our eyes would become adjusted to the dim lighting of the auditorium. In a still photo it's the camera's "eye" which needs to adjust, and your camera was unable to adjust sufficiently to produce the contrast required to make out the details of your puppet, given the lighting. That's just physics and anatomy, not a criticism of you or your work.

You asked us to tell you what we think, and we did. Maybe you didn't like the replies, because it seems like you started making excuses instead of actual responses. If the name of your piece is "The Night Time Engagers," then it's logical that the action takes place in obscurity, but unless your audience is an especially high-concept, artsy-fartsy one they will want to be able to see what's going on up on the puppet stage too. Hopefully they won't have any problems, since their eyes will be able to adjust to the darkness.

In the medium of film, cinematographers can cheat - shooting "day for night." That is, they shoot nightime sequences in the daytime in order to make things easier for all parties involved, as well as to bring out detail that wouldn't be visible at night due to low lighting - but have a colored filter over the lens and underexpose the film to make the audience think that the action is taking place at night. The technique has been used for many, many years, though it could possibly be done after the fact these days in the digital studio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_for_night

I like your puppets, and would enjoy seeing more of them.



Ron G.

Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by Hilltop on Jun 28, 2008
Oh I am not trying to be too defensive and I understand and do appreciate you comments so I did post a brighter photo.  So you can get a clearer look at them.  Thank you.
Re: The Night Time Engagers Posted by StiqPuppet Productions on Jun 29, 2008
Thanks for adding the extra picture it certainly helps with seeing them and all the work  you put into them as far as painting and layering effects.  They both have unique expression, I can't wait to see the one with the mouth moving.  You did a great job so far hopefully you can take more pictures when they are finished.

Best of luck on this new adventure........

Daryl H
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